Comments on: Jacob Prasch and Moriel Ministries http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/ The personal blog of Tysen Woodlock. Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:33:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Kieren http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-1350 Kieren Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:33:10 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-1350 I heard JJP say that anyone who's a Christian when they got divorced and remarried had to leave their current spouse, as it is an adulterous union and either remain alone or go back to their first spouse. He is, therefore, suggesting that a second divorce takes place and that the person should commit adultery again. Jesus did not condemn the adulterous woman nor did he tell her to go back to her first husband or leave the man she was currently in relationship with. She became a believer at this point but the bible does not say she left her current un-married situation. Jesus didn't tell her too. He would have, if this had been a condition of her salvation. The Lord's blood covers EVERY sin and JJP should be so glad of that truth. Nobody is saved.... until they commit a gross sin or live outside of the standards set by JJP.... they are 'KEPT BY THE POWER OF GOD.......' 1 Pet 1:5. Read also 1 Cor 3:11-15 '.....BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED...'. The incredible believe of JJP on the issue of salvation must shake the faith of the Lord's people and so he would have to be held accountable for those true born again Christians who are married again (maybe outside of the biblical permissions)living in constant fear. Yet, Christ gives us his spirit of peace. Does JJP not understand the difference in the security of salvation and the loss of rewards? I truly think he should take heed of other men in Christ and be still for a while and listen. Maybe listen to such Christians as Chuck Missler, Roger Price (now with the Lord), David Jeremiah and Dr Grady McMurtry amongst others. Blessings all. Kieren I heard JJP say that anyone who’s a Christian when they got divorced and remarried had to leave their current spouse, as it is an adulterous union and either remain alone or go back to their first spouse. He is, therefore, suggesting that a second divorce takes place and that the person should commit adultery again. Jesus did not condemn the adulterous woman nor did he tell her to go back to her first husband or leave the man she was currently in relationship with. She became a believer at this point but the bible does not say she left her current un-married situation. Jesus didn’t tell her too. He would have, if this had been a condition of her salvation. The Lord’s blood covers EVERY sin and JJP should be so glad of that truth. Nobody is saved…. until they commit a gross sin or live outside of the standards set by JJP…. they are ‘KEPT BY THE POWER OF GOD…….’ 1 Pet 1:5. Read also 1 Cor 3:11-15 ‘…..BUT HE HIMSELF SHALL BE SAVED…’. The incredible believe of JJP on the issue of salvation must shake the faith of the Lord’s people and so he would have to be held accountable for those true born again Christians who are married again (maybe outside of the biblical permissions)living in constant fear. Yet, Christ gives us his spirit of peace. Does JJP not understand the difference in the security of salvation and the loss of rewards? I truly think he should take heed of other men in Christ and be still for a while and listen. Maybe listen to such Christians as Chuck Missler, Roger Price (now with the Lord), David Jeremiah and Dr Grady McMurtry amongst others. Blessings all. Kieren

]]> By: Dean http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-1338 Dean Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:54:07 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-1338 I really feel sorry for u Tysen! Jacob Prasch is only telling the truth..... I really feel sorry for u Tysen! Jacob Prasch is only telling the truth…..

]]> By: walter http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-1334 walter Sun, 09 Oct 2011 13:25:07 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-1334 Wow, well someone did respond with information countering your view and you picked on them for their tone. That is a classic pharisee move. I think anger about children being molested with the molesters being protected is justified. The argument is foolish based on the fact that child abuse by priests does happen and the Vatican gets away with it. Child molesting is the issue, it's happening and this guy is someone standing and taking all the stones you can throw. From what I understand most bible expositors or teachers, pastors use theologies and what man has written over the centuries. Jacob Prasch and others go back to the Apostles doctrine and original languages. Understanding the scriptures the way the first century Jewish believer would understand them. This is why many theologians have disagreements and problems with his approach. They are viewing the scriptures through the eye piece of a theology instead of the eye piece of the word itself. Jesus rebuked the men on the road to Ameaus by saying "Oh you who are slow to believe everything written in the prophets." Many believe what man says but we are to seek the truth and believe what God says. Following theologies will only get you so far, believing what is written in the Word of God will get you to heaven. Wow, well someone did respond with information countering your view and you picked on them for their tone. That is a classic pharisee move.

I think anger about children being molested with the molesters being protected is justified. The argument is foolish based on the fact that child abuse by priests does happen and the Vatican gets away with it. Child molesting is the issue, it’s happening and this guy is someone standing and taking all the stones you can throw.

From what I understand most bible expositors or teachers, pastors use theologies and what man has written over the centuries. Jacob Prasch and others go back to the Apostles doctrine and original languages. Understanding the scriptures the way the first century Jewish believer would understand them. This is why many theologians have disagreements and problems with his approach. They are viewing the scriptures through the eye piece of a theology instead of the eye piece of the word itself. Jesus rebuked the men on the road to Ameaus by saying “Oh you who are slow to believe everything written in the prophets.” Many believe what man says but we are to seek the truth and believe what God says. Following theologies will only get you so far, believing what is written in the Word of God will get you to heaven.

]]> By: babar jamil http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-1329 babar jamil Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:01:03 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-1329 dear in Christ, I visited your Church site, it is really privilege for me to write you with the Will of God. I found that you have awesome and precious work of Lord Jesus Christ, May God bless your Church staff and all precious work. I belong the Christian family. I am able to do work of translation into Urdu and Punjabi, if you have any translation work so please consider for the translation work, i would love to give my service to you church as a translator.also any other ministry work please connect us. Your Church material and Word of God must be reached to unreached people who didn't understand the English, those people can study and blessed through the Word of God. I hope that Lord Jesus will give the vision of Translation work and all funds. I will do pray to Jesus for this precious work.i need money for my ministry ,family that's why i want to translation work.would you like to help us by translation.Also send us Urdu ,Punjabi materials and bibles.I will wait your reply. God bless u. servant of Jesus Christ, dear in Christ,
I visited your Church site, it is really privilege for me to write you with the Will of God. I found that you have awesome and precious work of Lord Jesus Christ, May God bless your Church staff and all precious work. I belong the Christian family. I am able to do work of translation into Urdu and Punjabi, if you have any translation work so please consider for the translation work, i would love to give my service to you church as a translator.also any other ministry work please connect us. Your Church material and Word of God must be reached to unreached people who didn’t understand the English, those people can study and blessed through the Word of God. I hope that Lord Jesus will give the vision of Translation work and all funds. I will do pray to Jesus for this precious work.i need money for my ministry ,family that’s why i want to translation work.would you like to help us by translation.Also send us Urdu ,Punjabi materials and bibles.I will wait your reply.
God bless u.
servant of Jesus Christ,

]]> By: Tysen http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-1328 Tysen Mon, 08 Aug 2011 07:13:57 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-1328 I'm not actually a Christian so much of your advice is irrelevant. If you're interested in a scholarly analysis of Hebrew language texts, there are plenty of reputable scholars who will give you a more reliable analysis than, in my view, that of Prasch, who, also in my view, is not taken seriously by any experts in the field. I’m not actually a Christian so much of your advice is irrelevant.

If you’re interested in a scholarly analysis of Hebrew language texts, there are plenty of reputable scholars who will give you a more reliable analysis than, in my view, that of Prasch, who, also in my view, is not taken seriously by any experts in the field.

]]> By: Angine http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-1326 Angine Tue, 02 Aug 2011 21:04:52 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-1326 Wow, look for yourself and see what God has to say, what Jesus has to say. You will realize that because most of us don't understand the original language of the Holy Scriptures, which isn't the King James Version, it is very helpful to hear from a person who knows the language and is willing to share that understanding. We will understand some of the scriptures, but will also miss a lot. Maybe have a look at not just what Mr. Prasch has to say in the newsletter Alert, but in the clarity of the scriptures in his book The Dilemma of Laodicea, and the book, The Shadows of the Beast. Very good, a little repetitive, but makes excellent points with each repeat. I myself have had to look many times over my life, at my views of scripture, and re-examine what I believe, or have been trained to believe, and be honest with myself to find what the bible really says. I want to know the truth, not just what I think is truth, or have been told is truth. Study, be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker that need not be ashamed, rightly discerning the truth of His Word. If you are sincerely looking for truth, you will find it. God is Faithful to show you through His Holy Spirit and His Word. He has always been faithful to me through the years to lead me to a teacher to clear up things that I didn't have the understanding of. That doesn't let me off the hook, to not study for myself. Don't take someones word, without studying for yourself. Wow, look for yourself and see what God has to say, what Jesus has to say. You will realize that because most of us don’t understand the original language of the Holy Scriptures, which isn’t the King James Version, it is very helpful to hear from a person who knows the language and is willing to share that understanding. We will understand some of the scriptures, but will also miss a lot. Maybe have a look at not just what Mr. Prasch has to say in the newsletter Alert, but in the clarity of the scriptures in his book The Dilemma of Laodicea, and the book, The Shadows of the Beast. Very good, a little repetitive, but makes excellent points with each repeat. I myself have had to look many times over my life, at my views of scripture, and re-examine what I believe, or have been trained to believe, and be honest with myself to find what the bible really says. I want to know the truth, not just what I think is truth, or have been told is truth. Study, be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker that need not be ashamed, rightly discerning the truth of His Word. If you are sincerely looking for truth, you will find it. God is Faithful to show you through His Holy Spirit and His Word. He has always been faithful to me through the years to lead me to a teacher to clear up things that I didn’t have the understanding of. That doesn’t let me off the hook, to not study for myself. Don’t take someones word, without studying for yourself.

]]> By: naila noureen http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-1321 naila noureen Thu, 20 Jan 2011 04:41:50 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-1321 Translation request/in kind supporty Holy sprite ministry is blessed with the pastors and leaders of the community who are professional in different fields who generously give their time to the orphanage house and the ministry voluntarily. Pastor amanat,professionally teacher, and good translatior from english to three major languages of asia,i.e.urdu punjabi and sarakiy, takes care for the translation work with a team of other good translators,and we remain faithfull to the souree document in our translation services.we pay our translation services voluntarily and for honorarium.you are most welcome to ask for hely sprite ministry’s translation services for a book translation,for article,studies andf for any teaching’s translation.using the holy sprite ministry’s translation services will not anly enhance our group’s knowledge and information but may also help a chold with food and educeation. Name = naila noureen, d/o = Amanat masih Addrss = Mukhdoom pur pohpran New christion colony dorshan abad Postal code = 58170 Dtt = khanewal Punjab pakistan Email address h_sprite@yahoo.com Translation request/in kind supporty
Holy sprite ministry is blessed with the pastors and leaders of the community who are professional in different fields who generously give their time to the orphanage house and the ministry voluntarily. Pastor amanat,professionally teacher, and good translatior from english to three major languages of asia,i.e.urdu punjabi and sarakiy, takes care for the translation work with a team of other good translators,and we remain faithfull to the souree document in our translation services.we pay our translation services voluntarily and for honorarium.you are most welcome to ask for hely sprite ministry’s translation services for a book translation,for article,studies andf for any teaching’s translation.using the holy sprite ministry’s translation services will not anly enhance our group’s knowledge and information but may also help a chold with food and educeation.
Name = naila noureen,
d/o = Amanat masih
Addrss = Mukhdoom pur pohpran
New christion colony dorshan abad
Postal code = 58170
Dtt = khanewal
Punjab pakistan
Email address h_sprite@yahoo.com

]]> By: Rev. William Dallow http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-856 Rev. William Dallow Sat, 04 Dec 2010 22:24:09 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-856 Well I have read the above postings and if this helps I have meet Jacob Prasch and anyone who knows him knows he only lifting himself up that others may decrease. He is someone who has been rejected by those who have studied the Scripture and have a clear revelation that we should exalt the named Jesus and that we should decrease, but Jacob Prasch has not yet had this revelation and so therefore his only way of finding substance is to put others down there he may be lifted up. There are many people who have joined Jacob Prasch in his quest to preach people who believe anything different than him should be crucified. He has not had the revelation that Jesus died for everyone, and not just him. I feel for those above who believe they have received the truth from Jacob Prasch, but it has Pontius Pilate said "truth, what is true"... but man's perception there is a world of difference between 'a true' and 'the truth'. The Bible is clear, Jesus is the truth but Jacob Prasch and the Pope both have a true. Anyone reading this who is a believer pray for Jacob Prasch and the pope that they would find the truth that Jesus Is Lord. And remember the book of Corinthians teach please exist to show others how mature we are lol. Jacob Prasch if you come after me, that's ok, because it means you will be giving someone else break. And remember Pharisees like yourself got mad at Jesus and eventually had a crucified and I know what gets up your nose when people like me remind you that Jesus said he did not condemn the woman caught in the act of adultery. Jesus is who is Immanuel which is translated "God with us.". It Jesus who forgives and in NO other name including Jacob Prasch or the Pope can salvation be found! We have all sinned and fallen short even the apostle Paul pray to be delivered from doing things that he did wanted to do. Is Jacob Prasch without SIN he certainly acts like he is. I close with this thought I once heard someone say "if you live in a green house don't throw stones. They say the Pope is infallible; it now appears that Jacob Prasch's followers also think he Jacob Prasch is also infallible. And there was me believing no one was perfect God bless you all and pray for me has Jacob Prasch comes after me, also I suppose 'I will of fallen from grace' that I would think let alone question the fallibility of Jacob Prasch. Well at least I will be nice and warm in hell reminiscing with those who questioned God right hand man Jacob Prasch the Holy Spirit's help. Well I have read the above postings and if this helps I have meet Jacob Prasch and anyone who knows him knows he only lifting himself up that others may decrease.

He is someone who has been rejected by those who have studied the Scripture and have a clear revelation that we should exalt the named Jesus and that we should decrease, but Jacob Prasch has not yet had this revelation and so therefore his only way of finding substance is to put others down there he may be lifted up.

There are many people who have joined Jacob Prasch in his quest to preach people who believe anything different than him should be crucified.

He has not had the revelation that Jesus died for everyone, and not just him. I feel for those above who believe they have received the truth from Jacob Prasch, but it has Pontius Pilate said “truth, what is true”… but man’s perception there is a world of difference between ‘a true’ and ‘the truth’.

The Bible is clear, Jesus is the truth but Jacob Prasch and the Pope both have a true.

Anyone reading this who is a believer pray for Jacob Prasch and the pope that they would find the truth that Jesus Is Lord. And remember the book of Corinthians teach please exist to show others how mature we are lol.

Jacob Prasch if you come after me, that’s ok, because it means you will be giving someone else break.

And remember Pharisees like yourself got mad at Jesus and eventually had a crucified and I know what gets up your nose when people like me remind you that Jesus said he did not condemn the woman caught in the act of adultery. Jesus is who is Immanuel which is translated “God with us.”.

It Jesus who forgives and in NO other name including Jacob Prasch or the Pope can salvation be found!

We have all sinned and fallen short even the apostle Paul pray to be delivered from doing things that he did wanted to do. Is Jacob Prasch without SIN he certainly acts like he is.

I close with this thought I once heard someone say “if you live in a green house don’t throw stones.

They say the Pope is infallible; it now appears that Jacob Prasch’s followers also think he Jacob Prasch is also infallible. And there was me believing no one was perfect

God bless you all and pray for me has Jacob Prasch comes after me, also I suppose ‘I will of fallen from grace’ that I would think let alone question the fallibility of Jacob Prasch.

Well at least I will be nice and warm in hell reminiscing with those who questioned God right hand man Jacob Prasch the Holy Spirit’s help.

]]> By: Gerard http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-848 Gerard Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:58:55 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-848 It is a waste of time to argue with people who are illiterate of God's word. Just like their models Benny Hinn, Mike Murdock, Oral Roberts, Rick Warren and many more in ecumenical and pentecostal circles who pretended to be a bible scholars but absolutely an idiot in disguise. The above mentioned are the real pictures of Isaiah 56:11. A genuine believers of Jesus, love His physical brethren. To be more exact,the oracles of God were committed to them ( Romans 3:1). I love JJP, Arnold Fructenbaum, Sam Nadler, and many more who teach faithfully the entire counsel of the word of God. It is a waste of time to argue with people who
are illiterate of God’s word. Just like their models
Benny Hinn, Mike Murdock, Oral Roberts, Rick Warren
and many more in ecumenical and pentecostal circles
who pretended to be a bible scholars but absolutely
an idiot in disguise. The above mentioned are the
real pictures of Isaiah 56:11.
A genuine believers of Jesus, love His physical
brethren. To be more exact,the oracles of God were
committed to them ( Romans 3:1).
I love JJP, Arnold Fructenbaum, Sam Nadler, and
many more who teach faithfully the entire counsel
of the word of God.

]]> By: I.believe.In.Jesus! http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/jacob-prasch-and-moriel-ministries/comment-page-1/#comment-846 I.believe.In.Jesus! Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:21:41 +0000 http://tjwoodlock.com/blog/?p=93#comment-846 also please excusse all spelling and gamatical errors :) not my strong point, nevertheless may God richly bless you in finding Jesus. also please excusse all spelling and gamatical errors :) not my strong point,
nevertheless may God richly bless you in finding Jesus.

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